> MIM, before its freak-show degeneration
MSH mainly seems at least to me to be calling MIM's "freak show degeneration" based on the hard hitting action of the Art Ministry.
> MIM never really put forward a comprehensive framework for understanding gender.
MIM pointed out that MacKinnon was pre-leninist and took up the line that MacKinnon never took up, yet got mediaraped for. (yes, the Art Ministry constructs words; get used to it agglutinative languages are better in bed).
> MIM Theory magazine and MIM’s web page contained disparate and provocative writings on gender.
Provocative, yes. It is right to rebel! But disparate? Facts please.
> Flawed as they were
More general pissing and baseless allegations by MSH :(
> MIM’s writings on gender were far superior to the boilerplate liberalism of the fakes.
Yes.
> MIM’s writings contained various contradictory and muddled positions on gender issues.
ORLY? Struggle results in exposition of the incorrect and correct line! MIM addressed and rejected numerous incorrect lines. That's what struggle looks like. It's not muddled it's Democratic Centralism. P.S. note how MSH never once attacked Mousnonya/Art Ministry for not following democratic centralism on the gender line. That would have been the principled Maoist line of Attack on the Art Ministry, and the principled Maoist term for that is Deviationism. If MSH said "Mousnonya is a deviationist not practicing democratic centralism" then we would have been able to fight out that other line issue that MSH, ShubelMorgen and the other Splitters have avoided and one that does need answered: What is Maoist Art
Maoist Art is Art Made by Maoists! That's a liberal looking answer but it ain't! Why? Democratic centralism, that key concept the splitters abandoned with their premature "MIM is dead and evil" line ditched back at the starting gate. Oops.
> MSH is producing a stand-in gender line
MSH says "stand-in" you know like a bad actor who's been bad jacketing and now needs a new roll. MSH really means "stand down". Well, it would be better to Maoist science if we fought this out where it belongs
A. Democratic Centralism
B. How REVOLUTIONARY Art is best produced
C. Sex vs. Rape vs. Prostitution
D. Deviationism
With typical first world unscientific pornofascism MSH is able to see this only through it's gonads and focuses on point D.
Here, liner notes for those interested in hard hitting Maoist Science.
until we can develop a consistent scientific framework for gender:
> 1. The contradiction between adult first-world males and females is non-antagonistic (within the same nation). Both are part of a global gender aristocracy.
Then why are the men not getting raped by the women?
While one can fairly agree with 1 one can also disagree. P.s. this is why MIM never made gender a cardinal issue -- unlike MSH and the splitters.
> 2. First worlders as a whole, male and female, accrue privileges by jointly oppressing the third world.
Yes, and MIM definitely said this when it talked about how it is that divorced women can extract superprofits from their divorcing husbands. But waitaminute isn't divorce a bit of an antagonistic contradiction, just like rape?
And hey, is fidelity and childbearing and childraising an absolute contradiction?
Until men can get pregnant and raped by women I think they are relating to each other in an absolute contradiction UNDER CAPITALISM
We will know we have move to socialism when the antagonistic contradiction between men and women transforms (dialectically) into a relative contradiction. Absolute contradictions cannot be harmonized. Capitalism cannot resolve gender contradiction in the first world even within the oppressor nation that's how fucked up it is.
The contradiction, though absolute is not principal. MIM never said the principal contradiction globally was men versus women. That would be MacKinnon on Maoist steroids. MacKinnon doesn't have a principal contradiction (anymore) though when younger she likely would have put the global principal contradiction as men-against-women. Now she is seeing it as at least as much first-world-against-Third-World.
> 3. First worlders, including first-world females, are enemies of the third world generally, including third-world females.
More exactly:
3. First worlders, including first-world females, are generally enemies of the third world, including third-world females.
That language is changed to reflect the UNITY of the Third World as object of exploitation by the First World.
Also it's worth pointing out a lot more first world bio males are going to be enemies than first world bio-females.
I also wonder what MSH thinks about "women in the first world are gendered male; men in the first world are gendered female". That's MIM's line and there is nothing unclear or devious about it.
> The myth of a “universal sisterhood” between first and third-world females is a reactionary tool to divide national liberation movements.
Likely, imperialists have enough resources to hijack most every progressive first world movement with one notable exception...
> 4. Alternative gender language promulgates the myth that adult first-world females are significantly oppressed such that they can be aligned with the oppressed nations against imperialism.
Mousnonya started to pioneer the distinction EXPLOITED and OPPRESSED
Some nations are both exploited and oppressed. Iraq is both exploited and oppressed.
Other nations, such as the Turks (not the Kurds) and Mexicans are exploited economically yet their culture is basically tolerated. It's hard to see why you have Turkish fascists untill you see that imperialism can cut a cultural deal with Third World Nationalisms not oppressing aspects of the dominated culture in order to exploit it's labor!
Other groups are oppressed but not exploited. Queer's in the first world are not exploited, even Lesbian queers. However homosexuals EVERYWHERE are oppressed!
If MSH takes up this distinction that would be progress. It explains how a comprador class can flourish and effectively exploit it's own people all the while feeling good about itself.
> 5. It is wrong to characterize all sexual relationships in stark terms such as “rape,” terms with universally negative connotations. It is wrong for various reasons, including:
Mousnonya took up the line that ALL SEX IS PROSTITUTION
MSH better make a stand on this pronto. It's well worked terrain.
HOWEVER MIM pointed out that all prostitution is rape!
And that the idea of consent is rather meaningless.
How many bio women do you know with rape fantasies? Lots.
Some bourgeois psychologists argue that rape is a part of natural selection, ensuring that the strongest mate with the strongest. Mousnonya isn't going there. I'm happy to keep it all at the level of whores doing what whores do.
> Firstly, such a characterization of all sexual relations as “rape” is trivial and virtually meaningless.
Trivia: Does MSH know what trivial really means? It's not computationally trivial.
Trivia: Are "meaningless" and "trivial"the same?
Trivia: Does trivia derive from the Roman word for three roads, where witches were said to cast spells into past, present and future?
Trivia: Was the word Trivia trivialized by catholic patriarchy to destroy the words feminist content?
> It is overly reductionist.
^Redundant. You can't be "overly" reductionist. Learn English monkey.
Though, I am okay if the line turns into "All sex is prostitution" since there is a qualitative difference to someone being forced to have sex at gunpoint and getting slapped around versus having sex with that same person thereafter in exchange for money (real world example; lots of whores were raped, often as children).
Since most sex workers were sexually abused, somehow, the line "all sex is prostitution" bleeds quickly into the line "all sex is rape". Good luck with that distinction MSH I don't see either line changing work of real Maoist significantly.
Such a characterization stretches the meaning of the term “rape” as to strip it of any explanatory power. It obliterates important distinctions like why cases of sex tourism are qualitatively different than ordinary encounters between first-world adults.
> Thirdly, calling all sex “rape” obscures the fact that adult first-world females benefit overall from their relationships, including their personal relationships, with adult first-world males.
What, you never heard of a whore getting paid for being raped?
> Fourthly, the claim that “all sex is rape” panders to the gender aristocracy and bourgeois fake-feminism.
Ok.
> 6. Gender is not biological; it is a social construct.
YES.
> 7. It is important to oppose bourgeois fake-feminism, especially crypto-Trotskyism in gender forms, especially since Amerikkka, the Great Satan, is waging a crusade against the Islamic world.
OH YEAH. Seeing this through the eyes of the Third World makes lots of things clearer.
> Questions about lifestyle are generally sub-reformist.
NO! QUESTIONS ABOUT LIFESTYLE ARE PIG QUESTIONS
Is MSH blurring the distinction between "what is a pig question"? Looks like it to me.
Why would anyone want to blur that distinction?
> MSH has no line on how revolutionaries should specifically conduct their personal relationships and sexual lives other than the line that revolutionaries should evaluate their lifestyles through the lenses of security and image.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!
MIM has a line called "forever monogamy". MSH just decides to piss all over that and claim that MIM is degenerated? ROFL lMAO.
> MSH’s line is that security and image are the main criteria for assessing why one lifestyle is better than another for revolutionaries in the first world.
Security, yes, but image no: WE ARE NOT TRYING OR ABLE TO GAIN A MAJORITY IN THE FIRST WORLD. So... image (even identity CGI LOL) are irrelevant.
> Obviously, certain lifestyle choices, in terms of security and image, are incompatible with serious revolutionary work.
^SMUGGLING HOMOPHOBIA IN THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.
> Individual cells will have a better idea about where to set the bar on these issues in their own contexts.
^DITCHING DEMOCRATIC CENTRALISM
Well, this isn't the way to frame the issues but at least MSH is finally doing something other than throwing baseless general allegations around. Let's see how well we can coerce MSH whether pigs or friends into doing good Maoist work.